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Put up a support brace between the ceiling joists where you want the fan, because fans can weigh up to 50 pounds. If your ceiling is covered with drywall, you'll need to access the joists through the attic to attach the support brace.
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Supporting a ceiling fan properly is important to avoid personal injury and damage to your house. There are several acceptable ways to support a ceiling fan, including special boxes designed with straps or fastening the box to wood blocking. A visual inspection from above is always recommended to confirm that the previous work is sufficient. If there is no attic space available to use for inspection, other options are available.
Support Requirements
The National Electric Code requires that all fans 35 pounds and over must be supported with an outlet box or outlet box system that is listed for ceiling fan support. The manufacturer must have marked the outlet box system to indicate that it is acceptable for ceiling fan installations. If the original box is not listed for this purpose, it must be retrofitted and attached securely to the building structure.
Outlet Boxes Designed for Ceiling Fans
Specially designed outlet boxes for ceiling fan support have special braces that extend to contact adjacent ceiling joists. These braces are then nailed or screwed into the joists themselves. A threaded set-nipple is mounted in the middle of the box, which allows the box to travel laterally along the brace. Inspecting the brace-joist connection is the best way to make sure that the box was installed properly.
Wooden Support
Ceiling boxes in older homes may not have special fan boxes. Instead, the carpenters who framed the ceiling may have added a block between the ceiling joists upon which the box is mounted. The box should have been fastened with screws to the bottom of the block. If the box is mounted on only one side or with nails it should not be used as is.
Inspecting an Existing Box
Scsi controller is not installed. The best way to confirm that a box is securely attached is to inspect from above. Crawling through the attic to locate the box allows you to confirm that all supports are adequate. However, if you are installing a fan between stories where there is no attic space, you will have to determine from below. Look for the attachment points of the box. Is it screwed to wood from the sides, or do the screws go through the top of the box? Is there a threaded nipple visible from below? If you cannot discern how the box is supported, hire an electrician to inspect the box for you.
References (1)
- 2011 National Electric Code; National Fire Protection Association
Resources (1)
- Old Electrical Wiring: David Shapiro
About the Author
Charles W. St.Clair has been writing professionally since 2003. He lives in Oakland, Calif., working as an electrician and carpenter. St. Clair holds a bachelor's degree in public policy from Emory & Henry College and a master's degree in city planning from University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, where he specialized in food system planning.
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Home ceiling fans need the proper support to be safe for use. A standard, unsupported circuit box doesn't have enough strength to hold a ceiling lamp in place. Adding a support between the joists enables you to put the fan where you want it in the ceiling. Putting a support in when you have access to the attic above the ceiling is different than putting one in without the attic access.
Attic Access
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Drill a 1/2-inch hole into the ceiling and up into the attic in the center of where the fan will go. Poke the wood rod up into the hole and tape it so that it holds steady.
2
Find the wood rod from above in the attic. Saw a circle around the wood rod that matches the diameter of your circuit box.
3
Screw the circuit box securely into place on the support beam so that when you lay the support beam in place, the circuit box is directly over the hole. Slide the Romex -- the electrical wire -- into the tapout on the side of the box and pull about 12 inches though. Secure the Romex depending upon the type of box that you have, either with a lock nut or a strap. Wrap the Romex going back to the power supply up and around the support beam and out of the way. Unless you're very familiar with installing electrical systems, it's best to have a qualified person attach the Romex to the power supply. If you have the electrical supply installed before finishing the next steps, then be sure to turn off the main circuit breaker before installation.
4
Place the support beam between the joists and nail it securely into place with the Romex dangling down from the ceiling hole. Depending upon the type of joists you have, it may be easier to use joist hangers to support the small beam between the joists.
5
Return to the room where you're installing the fan. Install the mounting base of the fan to the circuit box with screws. Lift the fan motor to the ceiling and rest it on the mounting base hook.
6
Cut the Romex wire back so that you have just enough to easily connect with the fan wires. Peel about 3/8-inch of insulation from the circuit box wires and use a wire nut to connect the white wire of the Romex with the white wire of the fan, and the black and black wires together. Screw the motor to the mounting base and attach the fan blades as the fan instructions indicate.
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Drill a pilot hole in the center of the circle where the fan motor base will be located. Saw a circle around the pilot hole sized just large enough to fit the circuit box.
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Push the expandable brace through the hole and orient it so that the ends of the brace are pointed at the joists to each side of the hole. As you twist on the brace, it expands, and the sharp, built-in nails on the brace ends dig into the joist wood. Continue to twist until you have a solid, secure connection to the joists.
3
Mount the circuit box to the brace with the supplied hardware. Hire a qualified electrician to run the Romex along the ceiling and down a wall to connect it to the power supply.
4
Connect the mounting base to the circuit box and the fan motor to the electrical wires as was done in Steps 5 and 6 of Section 1.
Things You Will Need
- Electric drill
- 18-inch wood rod
- Tape
- 2-inch by 4-inch wood stud sized to fit between joists for a support beam
- Hammer
- Nails
- Joist hanger
- Keyhole saw or other drywall cutter
- Heavy duty circuit box
- Spool of Romex wire
- Wire cutter
- Screwdriver
- Expandable fan-mounting brace
Tip
- Many home building codes allow you to run Romex in the attic, but there may be complications depending upon attic access and other concerns. Check with the local authorities and, if necessary, obtain all permits for any home electrical work.
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About the Author
Jack Burton started writing professionally in 1980 with articles in 'Word from Jerusalem,' 'ICEJ Daily News' and Tagalong Garden News. He has managed radio stations, TV studios and newspapers, and was the chief fundraiser for Taltree Arboretum. Burton holds a B.S. in broadcasting from John Brown University. He is a 26-year veteran of the U.S. Navy/Navy Reserves and the Navy Seabees.
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